Save the Basic Income Pilot Project

Back in 2015, 122 Ontario doctors pressed then Ontario Liberal Minister of Health Eric Hoskins to adopt Basic Income because income (or lack thereof) is a serious health issue.   The Wynne Government took its sweet time about it, and I have no doubt at all their Basic Income Pilot was intended to result in re-election.   Still, WRGreens own Stacey Danckert pointed out the last Liberal Budget provided no funding to do anything after the pilot would have ended.

During our recent provincial election campaign, the Liberal, NDP, Green, and Doug Ford’s PC Party all indicated they they would continue the Ontario Basic Income Pilot after the election.

Universal Basic Income

The idea of Universal Basic Income is actually an old one, dating back to the Fourteen Hundreds. Far from being a left wing, socialist or communist idea, the concept spans the political spectrum, no doubt in part because poverty does too. There are left (human dignity) and right (stop theft) arguments for such a system, particularly in capitalist nations like Canada that are already investing vast sums in a piecemeal social safety net that has not managed to make a dent in citizen poverty.   In Canada politicians of every political stripe have agreed we need to eliminate child poverty, and yet poverty is still with us.

Even American Nobel Prize winning economist Milton Friedman advocated for a basic income alleviation of poverty.

"Suppose one accepts, as I do, this line of reasoning as justifying 
governmental action to alleviate poverty; to set, as it were, a floor under the 
standard of life of every person in the community."

—Milton Friedman, Capitalism and Freedom

In his role of economic adviser to Republican President Richard Nixon, Friedman supported a negative income tax as a means of creating that floor and eliminating poverty. Had Nixon’s government not fallen in scandal, such a regime may have even been implemented in the US.

The international resurgence of interest in the idea of a Universal Basic Income gathering steam in the early 21st Century is growing fast for a host of reasons, including the collapse of manufacturing due to so called “free trade” agreements combined with the rapidly approaching decimation of the job market by ever increasing loss of human jobs through automation.

Read more about the Conservative Argument For UBI in “Four Reasons Why Conservatives And Libertarians Should Support Basic Income|Those who support limited government and free markets should support fighting poverty by giving more money to the poor” and “The Libertarian Case for a Basic Income.

All of this is why it was reasonable to take Premier Ford’s promise to continue the OLP’s Basic Income Pilot Project if his party came to power.  Whether for or against the idea, it only makes sense for any government to complete a project that has already cost the taxpayers of Ontario so much to get the data at the end of the rainbow. Any decision to take the matter further or toss it out could then be made based on facts rather than partisan rhetoric.

Sadly it seems Mr Ford prefers rhetoric. Rather than forging sound public policy in order to govern “for the people,” his new Government has opted to cancel Ontario’s Basic Income Pilot.

More than 20,000 people have signed this petition asking the Ford Government to Save the Ontario Basic Income Pilot Project.  But the Ford Government isn’t listening to the people.

But all doesn’t need to be lost.

The Hamilton Roundtable for Poverty Reduction has appealed to the federal Liberal Government:

“We already have the infrastructure. They should adopt the program.”
Tom Cooper, Director, Hamilton Roundtable for Poverty Reduction

The mayors of the municipalities that have been piloting the Ontario Basic Income have likewise asked feds to take over Ontario’s basic income pilot

Federal NDP  Leader Jagmeet Singh calls on Liberals to save Ontario’s axed basic income pilot.

It isn’t exactly such a crazy idea.

The Liberal Party of Canada has a long history with Basic Income, and in fact it was Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau’s Government  that co-authored the 5 year Mincome Pilot in Dauphin Manitoba in the 1970’s. Unfortunately, as often happens with long term projects under short sighted FPTP voting, Mr Trudeau’s Government fell and the data from the just completed pilot project was shelved and buried, only emerging for consideration many decades later.

And lately, the Federal Liberals have been flirting with the idea of Basic Income as well.

We believe there is tremendous national value in finishing this project. Every province is grappling with how to provide a strong social safety net that allows people to lead dignified lives without creating excessive administration. We are in desperate need of preventative approaches that will reduce the burden of poverty on our health care, education, and criminal justice systems.

Elizabeth May and Mike Schreiner, Schreiner and May ask Trudeau to rescue Basic Income pilot

Instead of starting their own Basic Income project from scratch, the Justin Trudeau Liberal Government need only spend $50 million dollars to complete the Ontario Basic Income Pilot project.  That would be an incredible bargain basement price for data that would prove invaluable for making federal economic policy.

What can we do to help?

We can write our own letters to the Prime Minister and our own MP (and remember– physical letters travel postage free to the federal government.)  But we can also sign every petition… like the one just begun by our friends at The Council of Canadians:

Petition: Call on the federal government to take over Ontario’s basic income pilot project.

Every little bit helps.


Waterloo Regional Chair Candidates answer our Climate Policy Survey

[Republished from the WRGreens Blog “Survey Results – Candidates seeking Regional Chair position in WR]

Cities and regions around the globe are taking the myriad threats of climate change VERY seriously, and many are taking active steps to ‘future proof’ their communities. We are already seeing the impacts in our own backyards – and we know that decisions will need to be made today to address tomorrow’s looming climate dangers. On behalf of Region residents and voters concerned with the devastating impacts of climate change felt right here in the Region of Waterloo and across our warming planet, we asked candidates seeking office in the Region of Waterloo to review and reply to a survey questions.

The answers from all 4 candidates ~ Jan d’Ailly • Jay Aissa • Karen Redman • Rob Deutschmann ~ seeking Regional Chair position follow:

Jan d’Ailly

Q: First things first: do you support our goal of cutting local greenhouse gas emissions by 80% by 2050?
A: Yes, and I have proposed that all new construction/homes should have solar panels as part of our new official plan.

Q: Since transportation is the largest contributor to local greenhouse gas emissions, what do you think we should be doing to curb those emissions?
A: Encourage public transportation and active transportation.

Q: What potential issues do you see  with public transit in the city/region, and how can we increase their likelihood for success? 
A: It’s a classic chicken and egg situation, but the reality is that we need to properly fund public transit to ensure enough coverage to get good ridership. I can get you plan if you wish.

Q: What opportunities do you see with cycling infrastructure? 
A: Huge, I was the person who initiated the Waterloop and the connectors trails in Waterloo around 2010, It was part of my election campaign at the time. We need to develop a region wide plan that can be adopted by all the cities and then prioritise the gaps and start filling them, just like we did in Waterloo.

Q: How do you and how would you balance economic considerations (which may be pressing in the short term) with environmental considerations (which threaten hundreds of thousands today and our species’ very existence in the too‐near future)? 
A: Moving forward, everything that we do we must do on a more sustainable basis than we have been. Project by project, policy by policy.

Q: What is your position on our urban boundaries? Should we be continuing to build beyond the current boundaries?
A: I am a strong advocate of the hard country line, and see no reason why we should build beyond it. Its not sustainable. See answer above.

Q: What is your perspective on possible Greenbelt expansion into the Region’s boundaries? 
A: Our Environmentally Sensitive Landscapes (ESLs)’s, which, by the way, I had an active hand in, provide far more protection than the greenbelt.

Q: How can we increase our Urban Canopy? 
A: We need to continue to advocate about the importance of the canopy, and encourage tree planting. We can always do more.

Q: What ONE initiative ‐ that you may have experienced or seen through the media ‐ from around the world would you be interested in exploring in the Region? 
A: Good question, actually it has to do with the provision of social services and making sure that no‐one gets left behind. We need to transform our social service delivery model to a much more collaborative eco‐system. See my comments from the CBC interviews.

Jay Aissa

Q: First things first: do you support our  goal of cutting local Greenhouse gas  emissions by 80% by 2050?
A: Your goal of cutting local Greenhouse gas emissions by 80% by 2050 is admirable. Yes, I support your goal, as it is consistent with the goals set by the Federal Government.

Q: Since transportation is the largest  contributor to local greenhouse gas  emissions, what do you think we  should be doing to curb those  emissions?
A: I think we should follow much of the plan as set out in the Region of Waterloo’s Master Plan. In the years to come, we must also look to alternative sources of energy to fuel our transportation systems.

Q: What potential issues do you see  with public transit in the city/region,  and how can we increase their  likelihood for success? 
A: To answer this question I would refer you to my website There you will see that I am calling for the creation of a new Master Transportation Plan for our Region. This plan calls for a comprehensive completion of the Light Rail Transit (LRT) which includes an operational Phase 1 in Waterloo and Kitchener and the completion of Phase 2 from Kitchener to Cambridge. Also included would be efficient and timely transportation services to each of the four Townships within the Region. Also included would be suitable walking and biking trails.

Q: What opportunities do you see with cycling infrastructure? 
A: Again, I refer you to my website. I support the Region of Waterloo’s Separated Cycling Network Pilot Project.

Q: How do you and how would you balance economic considerations (which may be pressing in the short term) with environmental considerations (which threaten hundreds of thousands today and our species’ very existence in the too‐near future)? 
A: It is every governments responsibility to do the greatest good, and we must find the balance between economic development and environmental considerations. When elected Regional Chair, my goal will be to find that balance.

Q: What is your position on our urban boundaries? Should we be continuing to build beyond the current boundaries?
A: I do not believe that we should build beyond current Regional boundaries.

Q: What is your perspective on possible Greenbelt expansion into the Region’s boundaries? 
A: I do not believe that we should allow for possible Greenbelt expansion into Regional boundaries.

Q: How can we increase our Urban Canopy? 
A: We should continue our Regional tree nursery program.

Q: What ONE initiative ‐ that you may have experienced or seen through the media ‐ from around the world would you be interested in exploring in the Region? 
A: At this point in time, I believe that the Region of Waterloo has three priorities that we must pursue in the immediate term. First, I believe that we must do everything we can to ensure the creation of a new, high tech teaching hospital within our Region. Second, we must re‐think our transportation systems and create a new Master Transportation Plan. And third, we must provide more financial and personal support to our Region’s First Responders, and by that I mean our Police Force, our Fire Fighting Services, our Ambulance service and our EMTs, and others who are keeping us safe on a daily basis.

Karen Redman

Q: First things first: do you support our  goal of cutting local Greenhouse gas  emissions by 80% by 2050?
A: The Region has committed to 80% reduction of GHG by 2040.While I was Parliamentary Secretary for the Environment, I recognized that signing on to the Kyoto Protocol was an important step for Canada as a nation. At the same time, Hudson Quebec was banning pesticides in their city. Political leadership at all levels of government is required. But local municipalities have power to enact significant change. Municipal governments are the closest to the people. People in Waterloo Region started the blue box recycling program and have embraced the green bin for food waste with more enthusiasm than was predicted. The reduction of garbage in the land fill means a longer period of time before a new land fill site will need to be procured.

Q: Since transportation is the largest  contributor to local greenhouse gas  emissions, what do you think we  should be doing to curb those  emissions?
A: Complete phase 2 of the LRT to connect the Region to GO.  Continue to lobby for 2 way all day GO trains, lobby for high speed rail linkages to GTA. Consider what are the lowest emission  purchases for public transit when replacing vehicles.

Q: What potential issues do you see  with public transit in the city/region,  and how can we increase their  likelihood for success? 
A: When purchasing replacement vehicles, consider the least polluting options i.e electric vs diesel.

Q: What opportunities do you see with cycling infrastructure? 
A: Cyclists don’t care if roads or trails are Regional, city or township. Uniform signage would be helpful and a seamless flow of bike lanes. The Active Transportation plan is comprehensive. It needs to be implemented and the progress monitored.

Q: How do you and how would you balance economic considerations (which may be pressing in the short term) with environmental considerations (which threaten hundreds of thousands today and our species’ very existence in the too‐near future)? 
A: True leadership is knowing when to lead and when to step back to allow the community to provide the leadership. It is supporting initiatives like the REEP and Sustainable Waterloo Region. These are examples of leadership that have lead to a reduction in GHG emissions. Sustainable Waterloo Region is overseeing the construction of first energy neutral building in the David Johnston Research Park. Residential Energy Efficiency Program is empowering home owners to reduce their energy footprint while saving money. Again, the Region has committed to a 80% reduction in GHG emissions by 2040. I recognize that good environmental policy equates to good economic results for the Region. At a Provincial municipal conference, I saw a presentation on the potential cost savings over time and reduced impact on the environment through the use of electric rather than diesel buses. There is a cost to installing the infrastructure for fueling a fleet of these buses but phasing in major changes like these is prudent.

Q: What is your position on our urban boundaries? Should we be continuing to build beyond the current boundaries?
A: The balance between the rural and urban aspects of Waterloo Region has been largely maintained by land use planning that is managed through the Official Plan. Maintaining the country line to curb greenfield development and encourage intensification with in the urban core has protected our farms and the rural way of life. By growing food locally, marketing and processing it, there is less impact on the environment. The less distance our food is trucked, the less GHG emissions.

Q: What is your perspective on possible Greenbelt expansion into the Region’s boundaries? 
A: Recently a challenge of the Regional Official plan was settled at the OMB. The settlement was a compromise. More land was zoned for future development than was originally proposed by the Region. However, it was less than the acreage the developers were seeking. Managed growth based on the values of protecting the rural/urban mix should be maintained. The construction of the LRT is as much a planning tool as  a transportation system. Encouraging growth, both residential and commercial along the route, will alleviate the pressure to provide residential development on existing farm land.

Q: How can we increase our Urban Canopy? 
A: Urban life is hard on mature trees. We were attracted to our neighborhood 36 years ago because of the trees. They are currently dying and new ones are being planted in their place. Attention to the amount of salt used on the roads can make a difference.

Q: What ONE initiative ‐ that you may have experienced or seen through the media ‐ from around the world would you be interested in exploring in the Region? 
A: The fixed link high speed rail in China from Shanghai to the airport was truly impressive. A similar one from Waterloo Region to GTAA would be a game changer for the local airport and commuters. The 401 is reputedly the most traveled highway in Canada. Often it resembles a parking lot which is bad for our environment and bad for human health. Getting commuters off the 401 is good for the environment, good for the commuters traveling into the Region for work and those traveling from the Region to GTA. It makes economical sense locally, Regionally and Provincially.

Q: First things first: do you support our  goal of cutting local Greenhouse gas  emissions by 80% by 2050?
A: Yes.

Q: Since transportation is the largest  contributor to local greenhouse gas  emissions, what do you think we  should be doing to curb those  emissions?
A: We need to continue to work on our transportation master plan to ensure that we improve alternative modes of transit. We need to have protected and connected cycling infrastructure within our community. We need to continue to invest in transit to expand the lines, buses and service hours to make it more attractive for more people and to better support the ION line. We need to continue to advocate with the provincial and federal governments for all day 2 way GO, high speed rail between Toronto and Waterloo Region, a GO connection between Milton and Cambridge, and expansion of a fully funded and route reviewed ION second phase. We also have to be mindful of what benefits will come from a driverless world, once that technology has improved to the point where it can be operated reliably. We also need to consider the implementation of technology, such as that from Miovision, to better move vehicles in our community.

Q: What potential issues do you see  with public transit in the city/region,  and how can we increase their  likelihood for success? 
A: As noted above, we need to invest in our infrastructure which includes expanded lines, increased hours of service and more buses. At the same time we have to review routes to ensure that we are operating as efficiently and effectively, in terms of customer service, as we can.

Q: What opportunities do you see with cycling infrastructure? 
A: I am an advocate for building protected cycling paths and closing the gaps in our paths so we have better connectivity between bike paths. This also includes improved signage to make it easier to navigate our bike paths.

Q: How do you and how would you balance economic considerations (which may be pressing in the short term) with environmental considerations (which threaten hundreds of thousands today and our species’ very existence in the too‐near future)? 
A: Everything we do as a government has to be viewed through various “lenses” – economic, social and environmental. We are past the point in our existence on this planet where we can ignore the environment and assume that either things aren’t that bad or that things will fix themselves. That is an ostrich mentality that I do not agree with.

Q: What is your position on our urban boundaries? Should we be continuing to build beyond the current boundaries?
A: I was a member of Regional Council from 2010 to 2014. During that time we were dealing with the OMB dispute between the Region and builders over the additional number of hectares for future development. Eventually the parties were able to come to a mediated settlement after the Region lost the OMB hearing that sided with the developers for an additional 1,000 hectares for development in the official plan. The number was reduced to just under 500 hectares, which should provide developers with sufficient expansion lands for many years to come. In the meantime we will continue our intensification strategy that promotes building up rather than building out.

Q: What is your perspective on possible Greenbelt expansion into the Region’s boundaries? 
A: The Region has always been a leader in protection of our country side lands. We will continue to lobby the government to allow us to decide what is in the best interests of our community and not fall under provincial determination. As we saw in the last provincial election, if our lands are under provincial protection, that protection can be changed with a change in government that has a different philosophy than the previous government. My preference is that we determine our own destiny as a Region rather than have those decisions transferred to bureaucrats at Queen’s Park with little or no connection to our community.

Q: How can we increase our Urban Canopy? 
A: We must always be mindful of the impact of any development to the urban greenspace and trees. We need to ensure that we protect as much of our urban canopy as possible. In the event that there will be removal of trees for a development project, for example, then we need to ensure that there is a fulsome and robust plan in place to ensure that there is a proposal in place to provide us with, at a minimum, an equivalent replacement. I also prefer that green space is included in development projects where required rather than accept cash in lieu of greenspace.

Q: What ONE initiative ‐ that you may have experienced or seen through the media ‐ from around the world would you be interested in exploring in the Region? 
A: I was in Vancouver over the summer and I was really impressed with their cycling infrastructure. They had protected bike lanes and there were connections to Stanley Park. We need to up our game in Waterloo Region with respect to cycling infrastructure – protected and connected is my mantra.

Download the survey answers as a Microsoft PDF chart here:

Don’t forget to get out and vote for your municipal representatives on Monday, October 22nd, 2018!

The UN’s 1.5°C special climate report at a glance

[Guest Post by Emil Jeyaratnam, Madeleine De Gabriele, and Michael Hopkin, originally published in The Conversation]

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released a special report today on the impacts of global warming of 1.5℃ above pre-industrial levels.

The report outlines the considerable challenges of meeting the Paris Agreement’s more ambitious goal of limiting warming to 1.5℃, the global effort needed to achieve the target, and the consequences of not.

The highlights of the report are presented below:

infographic Graph: TITLE Global warming projections for 2100 | Emissions and expected warming based in pledges and current policies | Y-Axis Global greenhouse gas emmissions GtCO2e/year | 150 - Warming projected by 2100 | 100 - Baseline 4.1 - 4.8°C | 50 - Current policies 3.1 - 3.7°C | - Pledges 2.6 - 3.2°C | 0 - 2°C consistent 1.5 - 1.7°C | -50 - 1.5°C consistent 1.3 - 1.5°C -50 | X-Axis 1990 2000 2010 2020 2030 2040 2050 2060 2070 2080 2090 2100 | source: Climate Action Tracker | Text: The world will need ti be carbon-neutral by 2047 to give us a 66% chance of hitting the 1.5°C target, or by 2058 for a 50% chance. If the world was carbon neutral by: • 2047: we have a 66% chance of limiting warming to 1.5°C •2058: we have a 50% chance of limiting waeming to 1.5°C This will mean • sourcing 70 - 86% of electricity from renewables by 2050 • putting a price on greenhouse emissions • using technology to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. GRAPH: Renewable energy targets | Proportion of global renewable energy consumption in 2015* = 18% | Global Target by 2050: 70 - 85% of electricity supplied by renewables | Australia: Australia's target for 2020: 23% | Labor's Target for 2030: 50% | souce: The World Bank | Text: The world has had about 1°C of warming so far. at 1.5°C we will see: • more heatwaves, floods and droughts • up to 90% of reef corals lost • damage to crops and fisheries • threats to economic growth | images: forest fire, flooded settlement, dead coral, dustbowl farmer's field | Text: But by avoiding 2°C of global warming, we will: • protect 10.4m people from sea level rise • halve the number of people without fresh water • reduce death and disease from heatwaves. • make it easier to deliver many of the UN's Sustainable Development GoalsCC BY-ND

Correction: A previous version of this article stated that the Australian Labor Party had a goal of reaching 50% renewable energy by 2050. But the ALP hope to achieve the 50% target via an emissions intensity scheme by 2030.

Emil Jeyaratnam, Multimedia Editor, The Conversation;
Madeleine De Gabriele, Deputy Editor: Energy + Environment, The Conversation, and
Michael Hopkin, Section Editor: Energy + Environment, The Conversation

This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons Attribution No Derivatives 4.0 License. Read the original article.

Find the ipcc (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) report Global Warming of 1.5 °C ~ an IPCC special report on the impacts of global warming of 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels and related global greenhouse gas emission pathways, in the context of strengthening the global response to the threat of climate change, sustainable development, and efforts to eradicate poverty

“Global Greenhouse Gas Emmission Trajectories” graphic by Laurel L. Russwurm based on “The UN’s 1.5°C special climate report at a glance” released under a Creative Commons Attribution No Derivatives 4.0 License

Thanksgiving 2018

Although I have issues with the colonial origins of our “Thanksgiving” tradition, the idea of expressing public thanks for that for which we are truly thankful is a good one. It is especially easy to forget such things when so many negative things are ongoing, but to be able to continue to work for a sustainable workable future, it is important not to allow despair to prevail. We can draw strength from reminding ourselves that there is still plenty of good in the world, and by harnessing that good, we can build the future we need for our children, and generations to follow.

In 2018 Canada, I am thankful so many of us have come to understand the necessity of adopting a proportional representation voting system, in spite of Mr. Trudeaus’s attempt to shut the idea of a truly representative democracy back in the closet, as his predecessors have done throughout Canadian history.

So I am very thankful that, instead of allowing this to happen:

  • the Provinces of BC and PEI are holding electoral reform referenda
  • the Yukon Territory has undertaken a study of electoral reform
  • a new government has been elected in Quebec after all opposition parties made a public pact to enact Proportional Representation no matter which formed new government
  • Ontario struggles under an FPTP extremist government which strips its most populous city in the country of almost half its (already) inadequate municipal representation
  • New Brunswick again suffers an electoral outcome like that which triggered its previous electoral reform process
  • Alberta looks down the barrel at the prospect of right wing populism in its already toxic atmosphere of polarization
  • Canadian provinces are pitted against each other by the federal government
  • PEI political polling suggests the PEI Greens may form the first Green led government in Canada

As an Ontarian, I don’t care who’s first but we can’t afford not to change. Defenders Of The Status Quo fight so hard because once any jurisdiction in Canada adopts Proportional Representation and the sky doesn’t fall, the rest of us will be able to see with our own eyes that the myths they’ve frightened generations of Canadians with have always been pure misinformation. Once that happens, the rest of the country will fall into Proportional Representation like dominoes. We are surely at a Proportional Representation tipping point.

Even in the unlikely event PR is staved off a little longer, at least Canadians are beginning to understand that even with our existing grotesquely inequitable voting system, we need to stop being bullied into voting ‘strategically’ for lesser evils but instead vote for what we want.

I am thankful that all five Waterloo Region Greens ranked in the top 20% of Ontario Green Party candidates in the 2018 provincial election.

I am thankful that, in spite of staggering odds against, and in the face of the Broadcast Consortium’s exclusion from the Ontario Leadership debates, Mike Schreiner made history this year by winning election as our first Ontario Greens Member of Provincial Parliament.

Bravo Mike!

WRGreens are thankful for our estimable federal and provincial representatives:
Mike Schreiner and Elizabeth May.

And so I would like to wish us all a Happy Thanksgiving from everyone at WRgreens!

Laurel Russwurm

NEW!! People, Politics and Planet Podcast

WRGreens Meetup: Kitchener Centre Candidate Stacey Danckert and Teresa Cornwell host GPC Deputy Leader Jo-Ann Roberts and GPO orrganizer Maureen Balsillie at our DTK Office

@JoAnnRobertsYYJ’s has just unveiled her new “People Politics and the Planet” GPC Podcast!

In this era of knee-jerk partisanship and decision-based evidence making, the currency of actual ideas has become sadly devalued in Canadian politics. Veteran broadcaster (and Green Party Deputy Leader) Jo-Ann Roberts is changing all that with the new podcast *People, Politics and Planet*, a wide-ranging audio journey through some fascinating political terrain where you’ll meet some of the country’s most thought-provoking policy innovators.

Sure, they mostly lean towards Green — but, as Jo-Ann finds out, that’s where the all interesting stuff is happening.

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